Joined: May 16, Messages: 3, MichaelMouse , Jun 10, Steve Worcester , Jun 10, Doug Thompson , Jun 11, George Guadiane , Jun 11, Last edited: Jun 11, Gordon Seto , Jun 11, Gordon is right, to change steel or send the best would be very easy to do. George, to do a proper test it will require at least one of each tool and a thousand blanks Although I am a tool nut and like a good quality tool as well as anybody I think spending a lot of money testing the steels for the average wood turner is useless.
I still have a carbon steel spindle gouge that I use when it's the right tool to use because quite frankly it works well. I also have one of the Thompson spindle gouges in the same size but I've ground it differrently. I do like the Thompson gouge and it holds an edge much longer and is quite pleasurable to use. However if you took away those gouges and left me with the older tools I have I would still turn the same work. Now if I was making honey dippers and using the tool constantly where the sharpening time would be a consideration then I might buy the new one.
KEW , Jun 11, Malcolm Smith , Jun 11, Joined: Oct 24, Messages: 60 Location: Michigan. Call Me Mr. Average In fact, I'd be pretty happy if I was considered average on most days. There was a time when it was very important to me what steel I was trying to sharpen, because I was heavy-handed to the point of embarassment.
These days I can sharpen anything without it turning blue. For sure there are tools I sharpen more often than others but they will gradually obsolete themselves as they get worn away. What's really important to me now is shape. There's a world of difference between that first big roughing cut inside a bowl and that last delicate shaving. You know, the one that I used to make with the same gouge and have now figured out that, if I want to reduce the number of deadly catches needs to be a carefully tuned tool.
Used by a carefully tuned turner as well. My suspicion is most of the money I've spent on the latest and greatest gouge or scraper would have been better spent on wood. And that I would be best off learning how to sharpen and shape a few tools really, really well. Marc Ruby , Jun 11, Excellent tools. They are not bowl tools! If you want a bowl roughing gouge try one of Thompson's or Crown's 1" bowl gouges. I have 2 Crown 1" bowl gouges.
Each are ground differently for different purposes. One has a fingernail grind They have a 1 " dia tang that goes into the handle. This is a safe tool to rough bowl blanks. Angelo , Jun 11, I've been reading through here, and I have to say, as much as this might ruffle feathers like I worry about that! Once you get past the composition of the steel, which is fairly objective, everything becomes subjective. I've handled hundreds of gouges with various grinds and different geometries.
My philosophy on gouges is showing people how to use what they already have, but offering them my own to compare. Different types of steel and different geometries offer different handling properties, just like different tires on cars or trucks. And in the hands of different people, the same tool will perform differently. I alluded to this in an earlier post, so I will say it right out - I love my Thompson tools.
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I think they have great steel in them, and the geometries work very well for the way I like to turn. A number of people on this forum have seen them in action and know the things they are capable of doing. But that doesn't mean that other tools don't work, or that someone can't turn a good bowl or table leg with a different tool.
A good turner can pick up just about any tool and make it cut well.
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I say learn to use what you have, and then buy what you like. I will not change a grind on someone else's tool until they have used mine for a while to be sure they like my style. And as much as I like and recommend Doug's tools, he grinds them a little differently than I do, and others who use them grind them still differently. So where does the influence tool end and the individuality of the turner begin? Steel quality aside, I think the individual turner has more influence than the tool itself, so testing a bunch of tools for anything other than steel quality is going to be tilting at windmills.
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